Shinzen talks about spiritual teachers whose behaviour has been flagrantly abusive and less than ethical. He talks about the larger context in which this happens, and suggests that regular contact with a more senior teacher is important. He goes on to say that a feedback loop regarding the teacher's behaviour be set up with students, family and all other people regarding how that teacher is carrying themselves in the world, and that this be established and maintained despite how much time and energy it consumes. Filmed in Nov. 2009 at Mt. Carmel Spiritual Centre in Niagara Falls.
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