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Wednesday, October 26, 2005

The Mean Meme War

Fellow blogger and integral enthusiast coolmel alerted me to an ongoing war between Cowan and Wilber -- mostly it's Cowan hating on Wilber/Beck. Cowan has hurt his argument by descending to name-calling, but he raises some valid points before doing so.

Here are links to the relevant articles. I leave it to the reader to form an opinion based on evidence and personal experience.

"The Missing Links" of Spiral Dynamics and Ken Wilber: The Mean Orange Meme (MOM)and the Healthy Green Meme (HGM) by Bill Moyer

Wilber's reply: On the mean memes in general: Red to blue to orange to green to yellow by Ken Wilber

Cowan's reply to Wilber: Response to Ken Wilber's Response to "The Missing Links" of Spiral Dynamics and Ken Wilber, a posting by Bill Moyer on the Post-Conventional Politics (Post-Con Pol) discussion list, reproduced on The World of Ken Wilber website by Chris Cowan


For additional rejection from Cowan's camp of the Beck/Wilber work, see The Mean Green Hypothesis: Fact or Fiction? by Dr. Natasha Todorovic.

1 comment:

  1. Everything starts in mystism and end s in politics goes a saying.
    You know as long as you have experts on any subject, you will ahve differing opinions. SD is no exception in my view.
    The labeling of good/bad , generous/mean are IMO value judgements.. the key I think is to realize the enviornment you are in and use that as a basis of change. IMO not being aware of the enviornment is the basis of conflict between the organism and its surrounding.
    In the end, no matter what labels you fight over, if you dont know how to use the environment and be in harmony with it first, you will not be able to guide its evolution or your own.

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