tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13617569.post5792479354999574929..comments2024-03-27T02:13:58.088-07:00Comments on Integral Options Cafe: [UPDATED] Plagiarism: Marc Gafni Plagiarized Alan Barstow and Diane Hamilton Took the Fallwilliam harrymanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06981478282688361274noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13617569.post-19588255027310582162010-09-07T08:28:06.767-07:002010-09-07T08:28:06.767-07:00I have no sympathy for Mr. Anderson, who wrote so ...I have no sympathy for Mr. Anderson, who wrote so cruelly about a situation he knew nothing about, and who was convinced by Gafni to blame and malign the messengers. But he can now join the long line of public figures who at one time defended Gafni's integrity and lived to regret it.John Krizzlehttp://www.bondj.com'></a><meta name="robots" content="noindex, noarchive, nofollow, NOYDIR"><a href='http://www.bondj.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13617569.post-55585787622978351642010-08-11T01:52:39.973-07:002010-08-11T01:52:39.973-07:00What about Rocky's other article that Mark pub...What about Rocky's other article that Mark published as his own without mentioning Rocky,where he also claiming sloppiness as the cause? I see it has been taken down now<br /><br />What about his third wife's claim that he regularly plagarised other people and did <br /><br />Why does Mark use a fairly regular personal tactic of trying to discredit Bill by saying that Bill published innacurrate information questioning Mark's Oxford doctorate, when in actual fact in was a woman leaving a comment on the site who merely said check if its true as, on the basis of previous lies, it may not be.<br /><br />Why do I frequently feel insane when i read something by Mark? could it be me? or is he just insane making?<br /><br />Why doesn't Mark check his facts better? Why does he frequently misrepresent books and authors, which he then claims to be superior to in monologues where you get no chance to point out the error.<br /><br />There is something not quite right hereJennynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13617569.post-30899009747048324982010-08-11T00:09:53.480-07:002010-08-11T00:09:53.480-07:00in this post, you use the example of Bill of sayin...in this post, you use the example of Bill of saying in his blog here that you didnt get a doctorate from Oxford as evidence of his lack of rigour<br /><br />I cannot find any such assertion from Bill anywhere, i do see that a person mentioned to check this in one of the comments added to bill though, <br /><br />It seems to be you marc - not checking your facts and distorting evidence not bill , <br /><br />also nearly the whole of your slavery post was by Alan Barstow, word for word, this is a lot more than what you are saying <br />which is you inadvertantly included significant parts to your article<br /><br />what would help is if you could repost the article highlighting which parts you actually wrote yourself, as there seems to be very little or any<br /><br />other than that a more appropriate apology, taking better responsiblity would be in orderJenny Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13617569.post-74432921139085468502010-08-10T14:04:46.685-07:002010-08-10T14:04:46.685-07:00Dear Bill,
I received an email about your post o...Dear Bill,<br /> <br />I received an email about your post on Sunday night from Diane. We had read Alan Barstow's work, which was excellent, but I had not included it in my initial draft of the piece we were worked over approximately a year ago. I did not know that Alan Barstow's material was included in the article. I became aware of it when I saw your post. It was my responsibility to know. There was no intention on our part to lift material without attribution.<br /> <br />I would have liked to comment earlier as the mistake was in part my responsibility. I was traveling on Sunday night and Monday. I emailed and phoned with some of the parties while traveing, but it was naturally difficult to do in a sustained fashion. I got in late last night and drafted a clarification and apology from myself in this regard as Diane has already posted an apology. I waited till this morning to receive some third person feedback from the parties involved which I have received. Hence the wait before my response, which I have included below.<br /> <br />A final personal note. I am preparing energetically to become a father again with my partner Mariana. This is where much of my personal energy is these days.<br /> <br />Your posts in the last weeks have contained so much verifiably untrue information - just one example among many being the accusation that I was never at Oxford and fabricated my doctorate. These accusations are so far from truth, and so easily verifiable, that I would not even know where to begin in responding.<br /> <br />Having said that, Bill, if there was ever a genuine interest in a dialogue between us, scheduled in advanced, to have a serious and full conversation, on the record but with no editing on either side -just an honest conversation between men- I will be available for it. It would have to wait until awhile after the baby was born but we could schedule it.<br /> <br />Formal Note from Marc Gafni:<br /> <br />A section of the recent article on human trafficking, which was posted in the Integral space, suffered from an important, unintentional oversight, in that it inadvertently used significant sections of Alan Barstow's article without direct quotation or attribution. The Barstow material was not in first draft of the article. I had read Barstow's excellent article but had not included his material in the initial draft as my focus was different.. The<br />inclusion of the material happened as a result of passing drafts back and forth between the writers of the piece and then not tracking over time what was being incorporated and where it came from. A second contributing factor was the almost one year of lag-time between the research on the piece and its posting. This resulted in a significant amount of Barstow's material being seamlessly incorporated into the article without direct quotation or attribution. This was completely unintentional and is highly regrettable. Barstow's material was a significant part of the piece and should never have been posted without direct quotation from him.<br /> <br />Deep apologies for the lack of appropriate rigor and review which led to this mistake. The initial intention of the piece was to amass research material on the subject with no intent to post it. There should have been a review process of tracing the sources through the early drafts before any posting, which would have caught this significant mistake. I should have reviewed the article carefully and checked all the material before posting it, which I did not. Intentional plagarism in an internet age is simply silly as it is so easy to check everything and everyone is always watching for these kind of mistakes. There was no ill intention here at all and fully responsibility has been taken for the mistake. The article has been removed from the public space.<br />Marc GafniMarc Gafnihttp://www.marcgafni.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13617569.post-42608238666939426802010-08-09T14:27:37.912-07:002010-08-09T14:27:37.912-07:00I wonder if Rocky Anderson still stands by his let...I wonder if Rocky Anderson still stands by his letter posted on Marc Gafni's website (http://www.marcgafni.com/?page_id=438-). In it he defends Gafni by viciously attacking the women who spoke out against his abuse of power: <br /><br />"Rabbi Marc Gafni has been a victim of a seemingly spiraling abandonment of responsibility. After emails from women with whom he had relationships were deleted from his computer, pathetic charges were made by the women that make it appear they were helpless, obtuse, easily fooled victims of a man who took advantage of them. Then, after the emails were recovered from Gafni’s computer hard-drive, it appears clearly the relationships with the women actually had been the product of mutual consent and honest, loving disclosure of Marc’s intentions. “Gee, I had a sexual relationship with Marc, but things didn’t turn out how I had hoped. I feel hurt, and so I’ll blame him for my part in it and hurt him however I can,” they seem to be saying. Any feminist should be appalled at the pretension of such utter defenselessness, dim-wittedness, and lack of responsibility.<br /><br />"That isn’t the end of it, however. The claims of these poor, “victimized” souls became known to a woman (Vicky Pollin) who claims to have recovered the most bizarre memories of satanic rituals in which babies were sacrificed, and to a man who is known as a gossip columnist in the pornography industry. They then smeared the claims all over the internet. And they did it in the most salacious, outrageous manner. They’re not required to prove their attacks. They just try and destroy a man’s reputation and much of his life, then move on to the next person."<br /><br />I have no sympathy for Mr. Anderson, who wrote so cruelly about a situation he knew nothing about, and who was convinced by Gafni to blame and malign the messengers. But he can now join the long line of public figures who at one time defended Gafni's integrity and lived to regret it.Jakenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13617569.post-92003010242975401282010-08-09T03:35:27.437-07:002010-08-09T03:35:27.437-07:00I'd read it with someone else. He used a woman...I'd read it with someone else. He used a woman's words without acknowledging her. <br /><br />After I read about Marc's plagiarising I wrote a very naff paper for my final paper for the class he and Diane were teaching - and withheld my personal thoughts/theory that I had written on the paper - as I didn't want in time him to use my thoughts as his own. So I got a rather crap result for that paper - but I wasn't willing to get caught into something like this.Natalie Lambhttp://www.twitter.com/natalie_lambnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13617569.post-81732718474271560072010-08-08T21:28:29.082-07:002010-08-08T21:28:29.082-07:00[This comment was left at another post at this blo...[This comment was left at another post at this blog]<br /><br />Rocky Anderson has left a new comment on your post "Why Is Marc Gafni Featured in 3 Sessions at the 20...":<br /><br />I have tried to make a comment on the Integral Life web site, but apparently one must become a paid member in order to even leave a comment. (Very curious!) So I will make the comment here and hope that it comes to the attention of whoever is responsible for the Integral Life web site.<br /><br />On that site is a piece about slavery that Marc Gafni claims to have authored. The title is "An Integral Action Proposal in Response to the Horrific Human Rights Violation of World Wide Slavery." Under that title is the following statement by Marc Gafni: "The following is an initial draft of a proposal on human trafficking which I wrote together with my teaching partner at iEvolve, Diane Musho Hamilton." In fact, most of the piece was written by Alan Barstow. It has been copied almost word-for-word in the piece posted by Mr. Gafni on the Integral Life web site. Mr. Gafni gave no credit to Mr. Barstow for what Mr. Barstow wrote. In fact, there is no reference whatsoever to Mr. Barstow on the Integral Life web site. Neither Mr. Barstow nor High Road for Human Rights has granted permission for the publication of the piece.<br /><br />I received Mr. Barstow's piece many months ago and forwarded it to Mr. Gafni. Mr. Gafni, who was then on the High Road for Human Rights Board of Directors, was going to prepare a "solutions" section and provide it to me so the entire piece could be posted on High Road's web site (www.highroadforhumanrights.org). After receiving Mr. Gafni's initial draft, I sent to him a couple of questions I felt needed to be addressed in the solutions section before we posted it. Even those questions are contained in the piece posted by Mr. Gafni on the Integral Life web site. ("Of whom are we demanding each item? Also there needs to be specificity for each 'demand.' When, how much, who, where?") Those questions are found in Mr. Gafni's post after the third "Source" at the end of the piece. (Those sources are almost all from Mr. Barstow's work as well.)<br /><br />Mr. Barstow spent a great deal of time researching and writing his piece. I know because I had numerous conversations with him, and corresponded at some length with him, about what we were seeking to have included in the piece. I provided Mr. Barstow's final work product to Mr. Gafni solely for the purpose of Mr. Gafni researching and writing a section about the steps toward solutions regarding slavery for use on High Road's web site. I did not receive a final draft from Mr. Gafni, who informed me that he did not have time to complete the project.<br /><br />Since then, we at High Road have worked on a solutions section for several months and have posted it, along with Mr. Barstow's excellent contribution about the nature and scope of worldwide slavery, on the High Road web site.<br /><br />Mr. Barstow and I had no knowledge of the use of Mr. Barstow's piece on the Integral Life web site until it was recently brought to my attention by a High Road supporter.<br /><br />This is a very unfortunate matter. I am writing this only to make clear Mr. Barstow's authorship of his outstanding paper on slavery.<br /><br />Rocky Anderson<br />Executive Director, High Road for Human RightsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13617569.post-77364832112934175862010-08-08T21:06:45.176-07:002010-08-08T21:06:45.176-07:00Sorry Rocky - I didn't want to presume guilt e...Sorry Rocky - I didn't want to presume guilt either way without evidence - my sense was that Alan was the author - Diane has confirmed that it was her error.<br /><br />The link I used: http://www.highroadforhumanrights.org/board/board.htm<br /><br />Shows Gafni on the board. My apologies if that is no longer the case.<br /><br />Peace. <br /><br />****<br /><br />Thank you for clearing that up, Diane. <br /><br />[I took out my "deep bow of respect"]william harrymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06981478282688361274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13617569.post-44113470355705812392010-08-08T21:05:30.085-07:002010-08-08T21:05:30.085-07:00[reposting original comments]
Diane Musho has lef...[reposting original comments]<br /><br />Diane Musho has left a new comment on your post .....<br /><br />Diane Hamilton here. Alan is absolutely correct, and you are right to point this out. Big sections of what we put together for High Road do belong to him. We worked on this together, and I dropped the ball in finishing it and in working Alan and High Road to bring the project to completion. I passed it on to give information about the issue, and wasn't at all relating to the authorship issues. My sincerest apologies.I will rectify it with Alan, and with iLife ASAP. Pure sloppiness on my part.<br /><br />My sincerest regrets, DianeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13617569.post-74712571605898631352010-08-08T21:03:53.130-07:002010-08-08T21:03:53.130-07:00[reposting original comments]
Rocky Anderson has ...[reposting original comments]<br /><br />Rocky Anderson has left a new comment ....<br /><br />I am the Executive Director of High Road for Human Rights. I can assure anyone that the piece in question was first submitted to me by Alan Barstow and that I provided it to Marc Gafni, who was going to work on it primarily to research and draft a "solutions" section. Anyone who had any question about this could have notified me (I'm easy to locate) to confirm the source of the piece. It is reckless to even raise any question about whether Alan Barstow drafted the document. Also, it is very easy to determine who is on the Board of High Road for Human Rights. www.highroadforhumanrights.org. Marc Gafni, who served for a short period of time, is no longer on the High Road board.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com