tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13617569.post6207048842907529891..comments2024-03-27T02:13:58.088-07:00Comments on Integral Options Cafe: Dr. Allen Frances - Who Needs DSM 5? A Strong Warning From Professional Counselorswilliam harrymanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06981478282688361274noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13617569.post-64235521161014765462011-07-31T12:28:12.338-07:002011-07-31T12:28:12.338-07:00I have not seen Dr. Frances make the claims you ar...I have not seen Dr. Frances make the claims you are attributing to him - maybe you can offer up some links to those articles/statements?william harrymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06981478282688361274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13617569.post-15287755970149455142011-07-31T10:13:00.925-07:002011-07-31T10:13:00.925-07:00I had to find somewhere to say something about All...I had to find somewhere to say something about Allen Frances! I finally read some material of his I had put aside concerning DSM5 and Behavioral Addictions. I was appalled at what I read. Having letters after one's name and convincing others that one can string words together in no way means those words have any base in reality. I have been reading responses to Frances's writing from people who know what they are talking about - parents and people affected by the disorders Frances banters about so baselessly.<br /><br />Addictions are not what people do for fun! Obviously, this man has never walked in those shoes or cried over someone afflicted with a true adddiction. Fun? Is Allen Frances really saying that shopping or eating is in reality a "fun" event when it can ruin someone's world as well as that of their family's; or that it comes from some primitive instinct for survival and can no longer be controlled? Get real. How about this - it was better than suicide or cutting and was a more socially acceptable way to deal with what had to be faced in life? How is that fun? How about shop or eat until you kill yourself? Frances sees this as pleasureable and fun? <br /><br />Thank goodness he is a professor emeritus and hopefully those he taught are smart enough to live in the real world and have learned how to truly help those with addictions. <br /><br />I support academics, however this is one ivory tower that needed to topple.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com