tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13617569.post4704880224023428353..comments2024-03-27T02:13:58.088-07:00Comments on Integral Options Cafe: Deconstructing Jonah Goldberg's Views on Patriotismwilliam harrymanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06981478282688361274noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13617569.post-31343579933871794522008-07-06T00:10:00.000-07:002008-07-06T00:10:00.000-07:00P.S. here's a link to add to this discussion.Eric ...P.S. here's a link to add to this discussion.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbzY2JvlX9Q" REL="nofollow">Eric Alterman - Liberals and Patriotism</A><BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbzY2JvlX9Q<BR/><BR/><BR/>~CAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13617569.post-63693526126611571452008-07-05T23:52:00.000-07:002008-07-05T23:52:00.000-07:00there's nothing wrong with liking "America the way...there's nothing wrong with liking "America the way it is."<BR/><BR/>then again, the only constant thing is change. the left and the right shift depending on the cultural/political zeitgeist. e.g. the left in America is the right in some European countries.<BR/><BR/>my main issue with Goldberg is that his view on America is too focused looking from within. i think he's leaving out the global perception *on* America, which is very unfavorable right now thanks to the Bush administration. that's why i groove more with Fareed Zakaria's thesis and overall vision. Zakaria point's out the issues in order to restore America's good-standing in the world. i prefer that flavor of nationalism.<BR/><BR/>and let's face it, Obama and McCain both promise to "fix" things because America (as great as it is) could use more fixing with the way it is *right now.*<BR/><BR/>my two cents.<BR/><BR/>~CAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13617569.post-67545091221311419132008-07-05T04:46:00.000-07:002008-07-05T04:46:00.000-07:00Bill,That you associate patriotism and nationalism...Bill,<BR/><BR/>That you associate patriotism and nationalism so closely in a post about your dislike of Goldberg is ironic in the sense that one of his themes over the last five years is how patriotism and nationalism are different. For example, see this column:<BR/><BR/>http://www.nationalreview.com/goldberg/goldberg200505111449.asp <BR/><BR/>Take care,<BR/>MDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13617569.post-28938258120205443632008-07-05T00:30:00.000-07:002008-07-05T00:30:00.000-07:00goldberg's writing usually makes me want to retch,...goldberg's writing usually makes me want to retch, so we seem to have similar takes. but i do read the corner regularly and once in a while he comes up with some post that, goshdarnit, is incredibly insightful and true. go figure. his take on patriotism isn't in that category.JMPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03328622242031515106noreply@blogger.com