tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13617569.post114788867000734103..comments2024-03-06T05:17:31.852-07:00Comments on Integral Options Cafe: Can Paganism Ever Be Post-Personal?william harrymanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06981478282688361274noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13617569.post-1147918434902430472006-05-17T19:13:00.000-07:002006-05-17T19:13:00.000-07:00Jay,The Heart Sutra is something I can get intuiti...Jay,<BR/><BR/>The Heart Sutra is something I can get intuitively, but if I try to think about it rationally, it gets pretty messy. I generally don't buy the New Age stuff about physics revealing the Ground of Being in the quantum realm. In this area, Wilber's arguments are convincing.<BR/><BR/>Still, I have had meditative experiences that allow me to "get" that "form is emptiness, emptiness is form".<BR/><BR/>So in answer to your question, to me that quote has no literal meaning that I can talk about (transrational?), but is something I can know in my heart to be true.<BR/><BR/>How's that for a bad answer?! :)<BR/><BR/>Peace,<BR/>Billwilliam harrymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06981478282688361274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13617569.post-1147916780463415302006-05-17T18:46:00.000-07:002006-05-17T18:46:00.000-07:00Hi Jay,Oaksong made a similar distinction in the p...Hi Jay,<BR/><BR/>Oaksong made a similar distinction in the prepersonal area as you are making. I tend to be a little dismissive of that area. My rational brain struggles with reality being pliable much beyond thought and emotion impacting health.<BR/><BR/>I agree with the higher self aspect. It seems to me that that is crucial to any self-development.<BR/><BR/>Peace,<BR/>Billwilliam harrymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06981478282688361274noreply@blogger.com